Tired of powder coating quotes...
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Tired of powder coating quotes...
Haven't been around for a bit, lots going on and family health issues, anyways.... Well it was gonna get pricey with how much stuff i want to powder coat..... I haven't been working on any of my wings lately, just 3 of my CB's, But i did have time to test my new creation. I'm happy with the results, and it was designed so it could easily do 4 rims or a motorcycle frame
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1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
Did you rip open a stove and take out a burner to make that?
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
Exactly what I did, this was all re purposed sheet metal too from a wall that was ripped out of a ship awhile ago.
I used everything from the stove, The 2 elements, although its still only wired to use 1 at a time, the 2 big burners are also in there to assist in the preheat, I crank them to max until it hits temp, then turn them off and leave it the oven element
The light from the stove was moved to the top of the new stove and wires extended, along with most burner/element wires extended, the control unit just hangs on the side
ovens thermostat is in the top of the new oven and i used the fiberglass insulation too, and just kept all the sheet metal from the stove for later projects
I used everything from the stove, The 2 elements, although its still only wired to use 1 at a time, the 2 big burners are also in there to assist in the preheat, I crank them to max until it hits temp, then turn them off and leave it the oven element
The light from the stove was moved to the top of the new stove and wires extended, along with most burner/element wires extended, the control unit just hangs on the side
ovens thermostat is in the top of the new oven and i used the fiberglass insulation too, and just kept all the sheet metal from the stove for later projects
1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
What is the sealant used at the sheet metal seams? It looks like wood stove adhesive/sealant. I've collected all of the tools, kitchen oven, toaster oven, sandblast cabinet, but haven't done a part yet. Right now my oil-less compressor cylinder needs rebuilt. I know I'm gonna want a bigger oven when I get started. I've been looking at metal studs, sheet metal, insulation and wood stove adhesive, old electric stoves are free everywhere, could have had 5 or 6 by now. Wood stove gasket rope would work well for sealing a door. I really hate the sandblasting part but the rest looks like fun.
Scott
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
Yes its stove gasket in a caulking tube I used you could probably get away without if you use rivets but i didnt have an air riveter so just used pan head screws, the only thing i put rivets on were the doors hinges to steel stud
I tried to be cheap and seal the door with copper pipe insulation...copper pipes get hot...well they dont get that hot, cause the top half melted away
the top half is the the only part leaking hot air, it still gets up to temp, but obviously not as efficient, I will likely buy the stove fiberglass rope and use it on the top half only and see how that goes
Powder coated one of my spoked rims and it turned out great
I will now move on to my 80-82 com stars, I will be doing 2 tone on them, my first attempt at 2 colours
I tried to be cheap and seal the door with copper pipe insulation...copper pipes get hot...well they dont get that hot, cause the top half melted away
the top half is the the only part leaking hot air, it still gets up to temp, but obviously not as efficient, I will likely buy the stove fiberglass rope and use it on the top half only and see how that goes
Powder coated one of my spoked rims and it turned out great
I will now move on to my 80-82 com stars, I will be doing 2 tone on them, my first attempt at 2 colours
1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
Here was the result, oven worked great, hopefully post some pics up of the com stars when im done
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1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
- mrtwowheel
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
Heck yeah, keep this thread going and show us some more pictures. What did you do to keep the PC out of the brake drum? I think I'll go to the other extreme with some extra gloss black to start with. Just got the compressor parts ordered, pretty cool rebuilding a compressor for $40 and second time on this one. Good idea using the large burners for a faster preheat.
Scott
Scott
'86 1200 Interstate, alternator conversion, pinstriped by Charlie Buzzard
'75 GL1000, Blue Green, fermenting
Many more, mostly Hondas
Newbie, my ass
'75 GL1000, Blue Green, fermenting
Many more, mostly Hondas
Newbie, my ass
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
This was the Matte Black from Harbor freight, I have about 8 colours I ordered from a online store i will be trying soon
for the brake drum, I just used those rags, the powder is not sticky only a slight charge attracts it to the metal (trust me the first time i bumped the rim into the wall), but ive ordered high temp tape and plugs/caps
for the brake drum, I just used those rags, the powder is not sticky only a slight charge attracts it to the metal (trust me the first time i bumped the rim into the wall), but ive ordered high temp tape and plugs/caps
1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
Cool, yeah keep sharing what you do.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
I did the front spoked rim and the 80-82 com stars, ive always disliked those rims... but now i like them more
Spoked is Matte Black
Com star is Matte black and Bronze Chrome, i think i will the brake drum and the drive flange matte black, opinions?
I bought that gasket rope for the door, but my gas heater is a goner since yesterday... think im gonna get a used house furance and put it out in the shop instead now... so i left the rope off for the added heat
Spoked is Matte Black
Com star is Matte black and Bronze Chrome, i think i will the brake drum and the drive flange matte black, opinions?
I bought that gasket rope for the door, but my gas heater is a goner since yesterday... think im gonna get a used house furance and put it out in the shop instead now... so i left the rope off for the added heat
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1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
looks like you took the bushings out of the rear wheel. What are you replacing them with?
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all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
rcmatt007 wrote:looks like you took the bushings out of the rear wheel. What are you replacing them with?
Yes i did because i had to knock the drive flange off to get the other 2 wheels bearings out, and figured id just pull those out for the bake
This is a 81 cb750 chain drive wheel though, but a guy on the forum says hes left many bushings in for powder coat
I did on my cb500T rear wheel
1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
Wish I had that much experience already. I know what you mean about those Comstars. I have two '81 DOHC 750Cs, both going good and I ride them often, ugliest wheels ever made. I remember Cycle Magazine saying the same thing when they were new.
Scott
More pictures, tell us about your mistakes and anything that you would have done different.
Scott
More pictures, tell us about your mistakes and anything that you would have done different.
'86 1200 Interstate, alternator conversion, pinstriped by Charlie Buzzard
'75 GL1000, Blue Green, fermenting
Many more, mostly Hondas
Newbie, my ass
'75 GL1000, Blue Green, fermenting
Many more, mostly Hondas
Newbie, my ass
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
Mistakes ? Plenty ....
I've probably wasted half the powder... and its not in a place to be reclaimed ( which you can )
Prep is everything... i had both sets of rims sandblasted at a welding shop for $15 each , both i also mucked up with greasy hands of course.... advise against this, the rag i used with acetone actually left fibers all over the rim u couldnt really see until powder went on... the only good thing is, you can just blow the powder off... haha
Next time they will be blasted and kept sterile.... to save lots of time
Not sure what shorting the system actually does... done it a few times spraying too close on high voltage, and it just arcs then continues as normal...
Waiting on high temp tape and high temp plugs & caps to make masking easier , ive only used painters tape , which has to be removed before the bake unless you like goo
The next Set of rims I do will be the 83 1100's I've been thinking of copper outer rim and black spokes
I've probably wasted half the powder... and its not in a place to be reclaimed ( which you can )
Prep is everything... i had both sets of rims sandblasted at a welding shop for $15 each , both i also mucked up with greasy hands of course.... advise against this, the rag i used with acetone actually left fibers all over the rim u couldnt really see until powder went on... the only good thing is, you can just blow the powder off... haha
Next time they will be blasted and kept sterile.... to save lots of time
Not sure what shorting the system actually does... done it a few times spraying too close on high voltage, and it just arcs then continues as normal...
Waiting on high temp tape and high temp plugs & caps to make masking easier , ive only used painters tape , which has to be removed before the bake unless you like goo
The next Set of rims I do will be the 83 1100's I've been thinking of copper outer rim and black spokes
1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: Tired of powder coating quotes...
I'm up on wiping with acetone. I'm formally trained in auto body work. We used lint free cloths to wipe down and then used a tack rag to get any dust left after wiping. Don't know where to get the cloths but the tack rags are at Walmart or any automotive parts store. Use the tack rag with a real light touch (don't push too hard) or it will leave its own stickiness on the part. One tack rag can last a long time if kept free of grease, store it in a zip-lock bag. In the body shop we would ground the car frame before wiping down and while painting to kill the static cling, don't think this is possible with the PC because it needs the static cling. It wouldn't hurt to ground the part just before wiping down. I have an antenna tower just outside my workshop that I could hook a wire to.
How are you judging time in the oven? 400* for 20 min.? Do you have a window on the oven? I don't know if a window is necessary or not.
Scott
How are you judging time in the oven? 400* for 20 min.? Do you have a window on the oven? I don't know if a window is necessary or not.
Scott
'86 1200 Interstate, alternator conversion, pinstriped by Charlie Buzzard
'75 GL1000, Blue Green, fermenting
Many more, mostly Hondas
Newbie, my ass
'75 GL1000, Blue Green, fermenting
Many more, mostly Hondas
Newbie, my ass
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