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Oil screen cover removal? Gl1000

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How in the world do you remove the one screw towards the front of the bike on the oil screen cover? I think I will replace them with allen head screws after I get them out but is there a trick to removing the last one? Do you clean the screen on your bike everytime you change your oil? Thanks
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You may have to spread the frame a bit..loosen the front motor mount bolts..wedge the frame out a bit to get at the cover bolt..no you don't clean it every time..how often not sure I have never cleaned one where the engine wasn't out of the bike...as part of a rebuild. Through if your clutch dies/shreds then it will fill that filter quickly.
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I have never cleaned the one on my 78
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Most of the ones I have checked, were clean.....unless there was a clutch problem
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rcmatt007 wrote:I have never cleaned the one on my 78
Nor have I.
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I used a looooooong narrow head flat chisel and hammer, and struck the edge of the screw at an angle to break it loose. Then, a needle nose set of vise grips performed the rest of the job.
I can't remember whether the frame had to pried away, though.
The exhaust manifold had already been removed prior to my even knowing I needed to remove the oil strainer.
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gltriker wrote:I used a looooooong narrow head flat chisel and hammer, and struck the edge of the screw at an angle to break it loose. Then, a needle nose set of vise grips

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ericheath wrote:
gltriker wrote:I used a looooooong narrow head flat chisel and hammer, and struck the edge of the screw at an angle to break it loose. Then, a needle nose set of vise grips

Cliff---- anim-cheers1 You must be living right!
Actually, eric, I held the chisel with both hands and my son swung the hammer.
When I nodded my head, he hit it! ;)
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gltriker wrote:
ericheath wrote:
gltriker wrote:I used a looooooong narrow head flat chisel and hammer, and struck the edge of the screw at an angle to break it loose. Then, a needle nose set of vise grips

Cliff---- anim-cheers1 You must be living right!
Actually, eric, I held the chisel with both hands and my son swung the hammer.
When I nodded my head, he hit it! ;)
I started wondering if, indeed, what I'd purported to have been a successful project to remove that particular screw was completely accurate.
Being that the dis-assembly was accomplished almost 5 years ago, I went back and searched for my thread to confirm how it worked.
The chisel and hammer method wasn't initially successful, by themselves, after all. I may have very judiciously moved the lower frame, as well. Like I said that was almost 5 years ago, and was the only time.
Read pages 2 and 3 for the details of how I had to repeatedly and carefully slide the relatively soft screen cover up and down, just a few degrees range of motion each time, to allow the underside of the stubborn screw head to release some of its clamp onto the cover. ( post #35 has a brief explanation. )
THEN, I was successful to remove the stubborn screw with a bit of chisel tapping and the needle nose vise grips! The shaped rubber gasket survived the wiggling, but is NLA, so I used a thin swipe of RTV to seal the mating surfaces. Yes, a socket head screw is the nuts in that re-assembly process. They don't have to be unmercifully tightened to seal the un-pressurized cavity. My cover is weep free for almost 15,000 miles.

http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 6&start=30
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Excerpt from my neutral switch replacement thread. http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14520
The 1000's have Phillips head screws holding the oil screen cover on, the 1100's have hex head bolts. Three of the screws I could access with a hand impact driver, the front most one is however impossible to get to with any type of screwdriver. The Honda manual shows an offset screwdriver to get to it, yeah right! I used a small pair of vice-grips to lock on to the head and break it loose.

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Once loose, I backed it out by hand and removed the cover and screw together. I don't know on the 1100 bolt, but you may have to "flex" the frame at this point in order to get it out.

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Don't forget to use a shorter bolt in the front most of the screen cover (for all 1000's and 1100's). Will make things a lot easier if you ever need to be there again. I think the manual says 3 mm shorter.

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FYI In my research on procedure and frequency of cleaning this screen, I found the following:

1. the clymer manual has this in the oil change procedure (every oil change?)
2. the honda manual has this in the engine flush part of clutch renewal (when clutch replaced?)
3. the 1200 has the same (or similar) screen with no external access (have to split the case to get to it.)
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CYBORG wrote:Most of the ones I have checked, were clean.....unless there was a clutch problem
My experience has been the same as Cyborg's...
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Thanks for all of the replies about this. I have decided that if I am to remove this cover it will be on my next oil change :) I was out working on the bike today and removed the first two screws with a hand inpact but even the third was blocked slightly by the frame. I don't think the cover has ever been removed as the screws didn't like giving up the ghost...so after I removed the second one and started looking at the third and forth screws locations I made an executive decision to NOT mess this up by breaking a screw off. There is always next time...thanks again.
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Someone here posted a pic of a tool they made for it. I think they welded a nut onto a bit so the its length was enough pry against the frame to put force on the bit. I think a wedged edge like from a pry bar could be made to do it.
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As far as cleaning them goes, when I found excessive remnants of RTV sealer all over inside when I removed a valve cover, I figured I'd best check the screen. It was about half clogged with the goop. I also pulled the transmission cover to replace the water pump, and found it very easy to use a spray cleaner to wash out the accumulated deposits from the engine cavity through that opening. My 2 cents...
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I broke off the forward most screw head and replaced it with a shorter bolt for next time I clean it out. Oh, and yes my clutch was being replaced at the same time as this oil change and there definitely was debris from the clutch discs so I'm glad I cleaned it. I didn't have to flex the frame.
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