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Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
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- BigBrian27
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Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
Hello all,
I have a few questions about the hydraulic clutch conversion on my GL1000 and I have been slowly gathering parts.
I currently have the following items;
GL1200 clutch basket
Gl1200 oil pump drive sprocket
GL1200 slave cylinder
GL1200 1984 clutch cover
I am waiting on a push rod for the conversion
My questions are as follows;
1. In addition to the fiber plates for the GL1200, what other plates are needed? Can I use the metal plates from my GL1000 clutch?
2. What do you guys do for electronics? The switches are part of the clutch lever on the GL1000.
Thanks for the help, this is my first time undertaking anything of this magnitude on the clutch side of a motorcycle.
-Brian
I have a few questions about the hydraulic clutch conversion on my GL1000 and I have been slowly gathering parts.
I currently have the following items;
GL1200 clutch basket
Gl1200 oil pump drive sprocket
GL1200 slave cylinder
GL1200 1984 clutch cover
I am waiting on a push rod for the conversion
My questions are as follows;
1. In addition to the fiber plates for the GL1200, what other plates are needed? Can I use the metal plates from my GL1000 clutch?
2. What do you guys do for electronics? The switches are part of the clutch lever on the GL1000.
Thanks for the help, this is my first time undertaking anything of this magnitude on the clutch side of a motorcycle.
-Brian
1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
- Toehead
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
#2: You can use a brake switch banjo bolt, such as this: https://www.amazon.com/Goodridge-Banjo- ... B000GTV0RC (not sure if this is the correct thread pitch)
2012 Golf TDI, fast and frugal oil burner
1980 CX500C, All around road warrior (Sold)
1975 TS125 (Sold), old smoker
1977 naked GL1000, Highway cruiser
'81 GL1100 14,000 (reconditioned and sold)
'81 GL1100 50,000 miles (under construction)
2X 1981 CM400 beginner bike (sold)
1980 CB750C (sold)
1994 Virago 750 (Wifey's bike)
'76 GL1000 Sulphur Yellow (Megasquirted efi build) http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=59774
1980 CX500C, All around road warrior (Sold)
1975 TS125 (Sold), old smoker
1977 naked GL1000, Highway cruiser
'81 GL1100 14,000 (reconditioned and sold)
'81 GL1100 50,000 miles (under construction)
2X 1981 CM400 beginner bike (sold)
1980 CB750C (sold)
1994 Virago 750 (Wifey's bike)
'76 GL1000 Sulphur Yellow (Megasquirted efi build) http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=59774
- BigBrian27
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
That is for the brake side of things. I am asking about the clutch side of things. So that would be the switches for the turn signals, etc.Toehead wrote:#2: You can use a brake switch banjo bolt, such as this: https://www.amazon.com/Goodridge-Banjo- ... B000GTV0RC (not sure if this is the correct thread pitch)
1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
- Toehead
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
I'm saying that you can use it for the clutch side of things as well. The clutch switch activates when the clutch is held, the same as the brake switch. To preserve the clutch switch functionality you need either a pressure activated switch like shown or a master that has a mechanical switch.
for the turn signals, etc, I am not sure. I'll take a look in my parts stash when I get home.
for the turn signals, etc, I am not sure. I'll take a look in my parts stash when I get home.
2012 Golf TDI, fast and frugal oil burner
1980 CX500C, All around road warrior (Sold)
1975 TS125 (Sold), old smoker
1977 naked GL1000, Highway cruiser
'81 GL1100 14,000 (reconditioned and sold)
'81 GL1100 50,000 miles (under construction)
2X 1981 CM400 beginner bike (sold)
1980 CB750C (sold)
1994 Virago 750 (Wifey's bike)
'76 GL1000 Sulphur Yellow (Megasquirted efi build) http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=59774
1980 CX500C, All around road warrior (Sold)
1975 TS125 (Sold), old smoker
1977 naked GL1000, Highway cruiser
'81 GL1100 14,000 (reconditioned and sold)
'81 GL1100 50,000 miles (under construction)
2X 1981 CM400 beginner bike (sold)
1980 CB750C (sold)
1994 Virago 750 (Wifey's bike)
'76 GL1000 Sulphur Yellow (Megasquirted efi build) http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=59774
- BigBrian27
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
Toehead wrote:I'm saying that you can use it for the clutch side of things as well. The clutch switch activates when the clutch is held, the same as the brake switch. To preserve the clutch switch functionality you need either a pressure activated switch like shown or a master that has a mechanical switch.
for the turn signals, etc, I am not sure. I'll take a look in my parts stash when I get home.
I'm confused as to why the clutch lever needs a switch.
1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
- CYBORG
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
Clutch needs a switch so that you can start the engine when its not in neutral, if you pull in the clutch. A safety thing that keeps you from trying to start the engine when its in gear
1978 custom GL1000
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
- BigBrian27
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
Oh duh lol slipped my mind there.CYBORG wrote:Clutch needs a switch so that you can start the engine when its not in neutral, if you pull in the clutch. A safety thing that keeps you from trying to start the engine when its in gear
Where is the switch on the factory 1975 cable clutch? My wiring diagrams don't show a switch.
1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
- CYBORG
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
not sure. I always bypass them
1978 custom GL1000
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
- CYBORG
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
normally they are on the lever bracket
1978 custom GL1000
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
- BigBrian27
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
I found it!CYBORG wrote:not sure. I always bypass them
It was also bypassed haha.
1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
- jdvorchak
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
FYI I'm pretty sure the brake light switch works backwards from the clutch lever switch. Brake light is Normally Open (NO) and clutch switch is NC (Normal Closed). But verify that as I'm not positive.
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2021 HD Triglide
2008 HD Dyna Low Rider
83 KZ1100L1 Son totaled it
83 KZ550LTD Shaft sold
Previous bikes: 84 GL1200 STD, 83 KZ550LTD, 83 CB1000, 78 CB400A, 82 CB900F, 79 CB750K, 2001 GL1800, 2000 Dyna Super Glide, 1972 CB350 K4, 1985 GL1200A, 1997 1200 Sportster, 84 GL1200I, 82 Honda CM400E, 81 Suzuki GS650L, 72 Triumph Bonneville 750, 72 Honda CB350, 66(?) Honda 305 Scrambler, 6? Yamaha yz250, 62 650 Matchless (Norton-Villers).
John
http://ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
Don't fix it 'til it's broke...
The person with the most toys wins!
If it has wheels or a skirt you can't afford it.
Amateur Radio Station WW9L
71 CL350 with Bingham side car
2021 HD Triglide
2008 HD Dyna Low Rider
83 KZ1100L1 Son totaled it
83 KZ550LTD Shaft sold
Previous bikes: 84 GL1200 STD, 83 KZ550LTD, 83 CB1000, 78 CB400A, 82 CB900F, 79 CB750K, 2001 GL1800, 2000 Dyna Super Glide, 1972 CB350 K4, 1985 GL1200A, 1997 1200 Sportster, 84 GL1200I, 82 Honda CM400E, 81 Suzuki GS650L, 72 Triumph Bonneville 750, 72 Honda CB350, 66(?) Honda 305 Scrambler, 6? Yamaha yz250, 62 650 Matchless (Norton-Villers).
John
- BigBrian27
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
Interesting. I will have to check that with my meter, however that does make sense to me.jdvorchak wrote:FYI I'm pretty sure the brake light switch works backwards from the clutch lever switch. Brake light is Normally Open (NO) and clutch switch is NC (Normal Closed). But verify that as I'm not positive.
1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
- Toehead
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
Ah shoot, I think you're right.
2012 Golf TDI, fast and frugal oil burner
1980 CX500C, All around road warrior (Sold)
1975 TS125 (Sold), old smoker
1977 naked GL1000, Highway cruiser
'81 GL1100 14,000 (reconditioned and sold)
'81 GL1100 50,000 miles (under construction)
2X 1981 CM400 beginner bike (sold)
1980 CB750C (sold)
1994 Virago 750 (Wifey's bike)
'76 GL1000 Sulphur Yellow (Megasquirted efi build) http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=59774
1980 CX500C, All around road warrior (Sold)
1975 TS125 (Sold), old smoker
1977 naked GL1000, Highway cruiser
'81 GL1100 14,000 (reconditioned and sold)
'81 GL1100 50,000 miles (under construction)
2X 1981 CM400 beginner bike (sold)
1980 CB750C (sold)
1994 Virago 750 (Wifey's bike)
'76 GL1000 Sulphur Yellow (Megasquirted efi build) http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=59774
- BigBrian27
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
Yeah it makes sense to me that when you pull the brake lever in it closes the switch to allow power to the brake light circuit.
On the other hand (literally) when the clutch lever is depressed it should let power go to the starter so you can start it. Wouldn't that be a normally open switch just like the brake switch?
On the other hand (literally) when the clutch lever is depressed it should let power go to the starter so you can start it. Wouldn't that be a normally open switch just like the brake switch?
1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
1992 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000
Solid rotors suck! I have the PDF for the rotor drilling template, PM me if you would like a copy.
- jdvorchak
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- Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 8:01 pm
- Location: East Alton, IL
Re: Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Questions
I just checked the 1200 wiring diagram and both are Normally Open switches. So go for it.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help:
http://ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
Don't fix it 'til it's broke...
The person with the most toys wins!
If it has wheels or a skirt you can't afford it.
Amateur Radio Station WW9L
71 CL350 with Bingham side car
2021 HD Triglide
2008 HD Dyna Low Rider
83 KZ1100L1 Son totaled it
83 KZ550LTD Shaft sold
Previous bikes: 84 GL1200 STD, 83 KZ550LTD, 83 CB1000, 78 CB400A, 82 CB900F, 79 CB750K, 2001 GL1800, 2000 Dyna Super Glide, 1972 CB350 K4, 1985 GL1200A, 1997 1200 Sportster, 84 GL1200I, 82 Honda CM400E, 81 Suzuki GS650L, 72 Triumph Bonneville 750, 72 Honda CB350, 66(?) Honda 305 Scrambler, 6? Yamaha yz250, 62 650 Matchless (Norton-Villers).
John
http://ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
Don't fix it 'til it's broke...
The person with the most toys wins!
If it has wheels or a skirt you can't afford it.
Amateur Radio Station WW9L
71 CL350 with Bingham side car
2021 HD Triglide
2008 HD Dyna Low Rider
83 KZ1100L1 Son totaled it
83 KZ550LTD Shaft sold
Previous bikes: 84 GL1200 STD, 83 KZ550LTD, 83 CB1000, 78 CB400A, 82 CB900F, 79 CB750K, 2001 GL1800, 2000 Dyna Super Glide, 1972 CB350 K4, 1985 GL1200A, 1997 1200 Sportster, 84 GL1200I, 82 Honda CM400E, 81 Suzuki GS650L, 72 Triumph Bonneville 750, 72 Honda CB350, 66(?) Honda 305 Scrambler, 6? Yamaha yz250, 62 650 Matchless (Norton-Villers).
John
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